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Hugo Award nominations open

So, you know how last month there was that fabulous Magick4Terri event, and the vast number of auctions spurred me to create a ghod-awful-huge GoogleDoc spreadsheet just to wrap my head around it? Well, I have been very much out-of-touch with what's been coming out in the speculative fiction field, and am already loosing track of all the good recommendations and lists people are spooling out.

So I've gone and created another Doc. Only this time, I really want anyone who is interested to help fill it in.

The spreadsheet is at here at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsUSB8f4Hgt2dHJESjJ5UWRxU0NHR1o0dTVDUER4a0E.

You should not need to have a gmail account or be logged in or anything to read it.

I've started inputting the first list I had on hand (Elizabeth Bear), and I plan to add many more as time allows. But here's a game where everyone can play!

My thought is to list everything that is *eligible* regardless of whether it would be your personal top pick. This will be a reference, not truly a recommendation. We can also drop in come comments on things that might have been eligible, but aren't (like Girl Genius).

If you want to help input, shoot me an email and I'll add your email to the list of "can edit" folks.


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Jan. 5th, 2012 05:07 am (UTC)
Indeed! Link away, and I hope a whole lot of other people choose to add to the data input (because, really, I just don't know the field very well this year).

There seems to be some problem with people being able to edit though - not sure what's up with that.
Jan. 6th, 2012 05:36 am (UTC)
And the answer to troubles editing is that one needs to be logged in to Google (as well as signed up as an editor) to edit. Viewing is no problem, but editing requires logging in.
Jan. 5th, 2012 08:13 pm (UTC)
Can you add Skin Horse by Shaenon K. Garrity and Jeffrey C. Wells is on the list of eligible webcomics?
Jan. 6th, 2012 05:22 am (UTC)
Jan. 6th, 2012 04:05 am (UTC)
That's ambitious!
We at ISFDB seem to have over 4000 2011 Novels recorded, just from a quick search like http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/edit/ta_search.cgi?ttype%3DNOVEL+op%3DAND+year%3D2011
and making a guesstimate as to how many are "Variants".

You can also pick out all last year's Shortfiction via a search like http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/edit/ta_search.cgi?year%3D2011+op%3DAND+ttype%3DSHORTFICTION - but that doesn't separate the story lengths. If you're interested in such I can try and query the latest backup offline. I'm not volunteering to help on a title-by-title basis, but if a raw dump would be of use let me know. I'm good at ad-hoc queries.
Jan. 6th, 2012 05:35 am (UTC)
Re: That's ambitious!
While a comprehensive list would be an awesome thing to have, I doubt even the combined efforts of everyone drawn to submit things to this would suffice, not without a really dedicated input person (which I'm not).

At a minimum, I saw this as a handy place to gather the eligibility lists that other people (often authors) posted.

With more people helping, I think it will become a useful reference. But I don't see it filling the shoes of Locus, or isfdb, or the other more inclusive data sources.
Jan. 6th, 2012 06:20 am (UTC)
Re: That's ambitious!
Understood. We have TOO MUCH data at ISFDB in some ways - it's not easy to parse it all for what SHOULD be a simple question like "is this author eligible for a Campbell Award?"

What I am offering, personally as Bill the ISFDB data-extract expert, is a set of titles that can be CUT DOWN, rather than a list that can be BUILT UP. And we are pretty poor on fanzines (incompleteness) and Editors of Collections (not recorded except in notes) and artists (covers not so bad, interiors are weak on anything recent).

But if anyone would like to take on the raw-data I'm happy to help, and if they can suggest improvements to ISFDB that helps people generate such lists I'm happy to look at those too. (Although we have a six-month back-log on software improvements at present, since Language-Support started being improved.)
Jan. 6th, 2012 06:42 am (UTC)
Re: That's ambitious!
While I really do appreciate the offer, I know that I personally am not interested in researching from that starting point. Nor from the more limited but also lengthy Received Books listed at Locus.

To do any sort of passable job one would need to commit to investigating every title on the list, and I just don't see that happening at this point.

Building up a list, from the starting point of works that were knowledgeably stated to be eligible, seems to me to be much more workable. Either system will miss some, but at least the Build Up system is composed of entries where the person putting it in had some background on why it should be eligible (the author said it was in most cases).
Jan. 6th, 2012 07:53 pm (UTC)
Can someone link to the official eligibility rules? I specifically need to know about works originally published outside the US or serialized online.
Jan. 6th, 2012 07:57 pm (UTC)
They seem to cover all the bases at http://www.thehugoawards.org/hugo-categories/

if that doesn't answer your question, we can ask the community for input.
Jan. 6th, 2012 10:42 pm (UTC)
That helped a little, but I still had to go to the actual ballot on the Chicon 7 site to see about works previously published outside the US:
Extended eligibility for non-US published works: The 2011 WSFS Business Meeting, as authorized by section 3.2.3 of the WSFS Constitution, passed a resolution providing that works originally published outside the United States prior to 2011, but first published in the United States of America in 2011 shall be eligible for the 2012 Hugo Awards unless they have already appeared on a final Hugo Award ballot.

And then I went to the WSFS Constitution for clarification on webcomics/serials, and found this:
3.2.6: Works appearing in a series are eligible as individual works, but the series as a whole is not eligible. However, a work appearing in a number of parts shall be eligible for the year of the final part.

Which sounds like I can't nominate Freefall, because it didn't finish in 2011, and Mark Stanley hasn't yet labeled any of the 2011 scenes.
Jan. 9th, 2012 11:45 pm (UTC)
A list of eligible works I've read can be found on my blog.
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